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Adjustable Ball Joints

Discussion in 'Cherokee' started by SpartanRouge, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. Dec 12, 2017 at 5:52 AM
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    SpartanRouge

    SpartanRouge [OP] Member

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    If you follow any of my threads you will know that I bought this 2003 Grand Cherokee L6 2WD with a bad Engine and put a brand new (Remaned) Engine in it for my fiancé and baby to drive... Little did I know, until after I spent $4k on it between the motor and everything, the front end (I beam like suspension on front and rear) seems to be bent and looking at the truck from the front, the front tires look like this / \ . I Got it aligned 3 times by 2 different shops even after doing all 4 ball joints and it still pulls hard to the right and the tilt on the wheels is still very apparent. So I have pretty much determined that the I beam is bent at the ends where the spindles attaché to it. Anyway... this other, 2003 2WD GC came to the shop with a bad motor.. long story short, we ended up selling him another car and gave him $300 for his jeep so that I could take the front end off of it before we sent it to the junk yard. Upon visual inspection, this truck seems to be bent a little the same way as mine although not nearly as much. although driving down the road this thing makes TONS of steering and suspension noises so im hoping that something else is just busted instead of bent. but it still looks a lot better than mine now. but if I actually do go through all the work of replacing the front end... I want it to be perfectly straight. Now, they sell what they call "adjustable ball joints" only for the top in the front. they work but having the arm coming off the ball at a non concentric location in increments of I believe 1/4 in (don't quote me on that, it was a long time ago I was looking at them).

    MY QUESTION:
    Has anyone had experience with their front end being bent or miss aligned, if so how was it corrected? Also has anyone had experience with these "adjustable ball joints" that I am talking about? Do they Stay put? do they slip? did it fix the alignment that was non align able with regular ball joints... any info helps and the sooner the better because now I have this practically junk truck sitting at the shop and it needs to go to the junk yard as soon as possible.

    PS. if adjustable ball joints are the answer I will be putting them on along with the junk truck's front end (which is still straighter than mine is now).
    PSS. when I do the front end I think I will be doing a 2 inch (spacer) lift on the front and back with new shocks all around (if anyone has suggestions or points to make about that it will be helpful as well)
     
  2. Dec 12, 2017 at 6:07 AM
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    OFFGRID

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    I was under the impression that adjustable ball joints were to adjust the caster.

    When it comes to your frame, if it were me I would take it to a frame shop, and at least confirm that this is the problem and have them give me an estimate. I once bought an old Chevy truck that had frame damage, but was cosmetically fixed, and it never did drive right. After all the work I did on it I did not want to just sell it cheap, so I took it to a frame shop. They fixed it for $600. This was many years ago, but it would be worth a shot, and could save you hours of work for a fix that might not work; especially if you are suspecting the new truck to have the same frame damage.
     
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  3. Dec 12, 2017 at 6:39 AM
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    Not sure there will be enough adjustability in the adjustable ball joints to correct the visible negative camber.

    If the axle is bent you might be better off pulling an axle from a junk yard and just replacing yours. It could be a 4wd axle as the solid axles are a direct swap regardless of 2wd or 4wd and it's one step closer to that 4wd conversion.
    Do you have a local LKQ? https://www.lkqpickyourpart.com/

    My local store has 6 WJ Grand Cherokees come in in the last 2 months.
     
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  4. Dec 12, 2017 at 10:23 AM
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    I have been to a frame and body shop for an estimate on fixing the one on there now and they said
    1) without knowing exactly what happened to it (accident wise) (which i don't because i bought it that way) they would not recommend trying to bend it back because they like to know how to recreate the "accident" in reverse
    2) there doesn't seem to be enough to grab onto to bend it back and he feared that trying to fix it would do more damage than good

    We do use LKQ quite a bit, that's where i got the engine from. I ordered it from LKQ in Texas (i live in south Florida) and they delivered it to me.

    Thank you Prerunner1982, im glad you've seen some of my other posts, i think i have abandoned that idea of turning it into a 4X4. I since i live in SOFLOW theres not a whole lot of places to use it and if i ever do want to play in the mud id rather not use something im relying on every day.
     
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