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General grabber x3?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by HardHat420, Apr 11, 2017.

  1. Apr 11, 2017 at 6:18 PM
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    Anyone have experience with this tire?

    A buddy has the original grabbers and I'm not very impressed with them. They look like all terrains and don't flex much or grip rocks very well.

    The x3 looks a little more aggressive but I'm thinking they probably fall within the category of tires that just look aggressive but don't perform very well off road (ie. Km2).

    With few options in the size I need, it's between the x3 and DC extreme country.

    I like to trail and rock crawl and my current maxxis buckshots are pretty shredded. I love this tire but they don't come in 33x10.5r15 C.

    Thanks any input is appreciated.
     
  2. Apr 11, 2017 at 7:45 PM
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    Wow! You're really limited to a few choices aren't you and pretty much all radials except for a thornbird and a bogger. Out of the choices that you have I would consider the Toyo MT, and the SS TSL. For a Radial, I'm kind of partial to the Toyo. I have done a lot of wheeling in all conditions from Moab rock to East Texas gumbo in them. They performed great in everything except the thick gumbo, but does anything but a winch really get through that. Man if you could go up to the 12.50 the choices are endless.
     
  3. Apr 11, 2017 at 7:49 PM
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    Ive actually been considering those too
     
  4. Apr 11, 2017 at 8:02 PM
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    toyn mt is what I would run unless you can fit 12.50 tire
     
  5. Apr 11, 2017 at 8:06 PM
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    I've been reading the toyos are very heavy and the TSLs are not too street friendly so I ruled both of those out.

    Wanting 10.5 for better mpg, less road noise, and to keep the tire tucked inside the fender so I don't break my mirrors. I do a lot of soft sand driving and my 32x10.4r17 C buckshot mudders do very well in it at 20psi so I believe 10.5 is adequate.

    Yes it's very limited and frustrating.
     
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  6. Apr 11, 2017 at 8:09 PM
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    Another tire I just read about and is available in 33x10.5r15 C is the maxxis razr mt 772.

    Any thoughts on these?
     
  7. Apr 11, 2017 at 8:12 PM
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    let me look into this with my tire distributers 33 10.50 r15 what ply tire you looking for
     
  8. Apr 11, 2017 at 8:21 PM
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    Awesome thanks man. 6 ply.
     
  9. Apr 11, 2017 at 8:23 PM
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    I like anything maxxis. They were the manufacturer of your buckshot mudders.
     
  10. Apr 11, 2017 at 8:25 PM
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    will look tomorrow my tires are heavy - 285-70 17 10 ply
     
  11. Apr 11, 2017 at 8:34 PM
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    I agree with you on the KM2s They don't grip rock well, unless you get stickies, and I just found out this last Thanksgiving in Moab that the stickies don't stick well in cold weather. They are also very heavy. My dad runs the Maxxis Trepador stickies on his and MAN! I have never seen anything grab like them, and in cold weather at that. Guess what I have now on my crawler, though I wouldn't drive them on the street because they won't last long if you do.? For you the downside is that the smallest they come in are 37x12.50x17.
     
  12. Apr 11, 2017 at 8:54 PM
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    looked on line quick not to many options dc open country and super swompers very limited
     
  13. Apr 12, 2017 at 5:56 AM
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    I don't think they have 10 ply,or 6 ply, etc., anymore. I think it's a letter ratting indicative of the load it can carry. Tires only have 4 or 5 belt plys
     
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    Thay have both you are right most are letter ratings example load range e is like a 10 ply
     
  15. Apr 12, 2017 at 7:12 AM
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    The "Ply" rating stems from the old Bias Ply Tires.
     
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    Oic in that case looking for a load range C.
     
  17. Apr 12, 2017 at 8:29 AM
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    C is pretty light. I would consider a D rating. I personally run D or E ratings. They are a bit stronger than C ratted.
     
  18. Apr 12, 2017 at 8:33 AM
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    Not quite true. I believe that steel belted radials are also done in layers, but at a different angle than the Bias Ply tires. BFG used to advertise more plys than other tires of the same strength in there ATs and MTs to improve there sidewall puncture resistance. Here is a quote from an encyclopedia on the definition of a radial tire,


    "A radial tire (more properly, a radial-ply tire) is a particular design of vehicular tire. In this design, the cord plies are arranged at 90 degrees to the direction of travel, or radially (from the center of the tire). Radial tire construction climbed to 100% market share in North America, following Consumer Reports finding the superiority of the radial design in 1968.[1]"

    That being said the Load rating is as follows: Also quoted.

    Load range[edit]
    The Load Range Letter on light-truck tires indicates their ply rating.[10]

    Load Range / Ply Rating
    A 2
    B 4
    C 6
    D 8
    E 10
    F 12
    G 14
    H 16
    J 18
    L 20
    M 22
    N 24
     
  19. Apr 12, 2017 at 8:38 AM
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    In the old days (Pre-95) E rated tires were very rare and usually only found in Bias ply tires. D rated tires were found on 3/4ton and 1ton trucks. Everything else got C rated. So by todays standards C rated isn't much, but is more than adequate and one probably isn't carrying a heavy load in the back of the jeep.
     
  20. Apr 12, 2017 at 8:42 AM
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    My E rated tires only have 4 belt plys.
     
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