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Which lift has the most articulation?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by HardHat420, Dec 3, 2017.

  1. Dec 3, 2017 at 10:07 PM
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    HardHat420

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    I'm between teraflex sport 3" vs metalcloak 3.5" game changer vs rough country 4" vs AEV 4.5."

    I read the metalcloak has 14" of travel but didn't find info on the others. Is 14" the most out of these lifts?

    I really like that rough country will exchange parts under warranty.

    Do other manufacturers do the same with their warranties?
     
  2. Dec 4, 2017 at 5:06 AM
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    Yes that is about as much articulation you can get keeping the shocks and springs seperate. You can get another few inches if you do a coilover conversion. Evo mfg, icon, rubicon express, and I believe teraflex all offer a coilover conversion.
     
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    The MetalCloak kit will likely offer the most flex of the kits you mentioned as it is a mid-arm kit rather than using the factory short arms.
    A long arm kit would be better.
     
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  4. Dec 4, 2017 at 5:43 AM
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    Thanks.

    Just what I wanted to know.
     
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  5. Dec 4, 2017 at 5:47 AM
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    Oh I see.

    What makes the long arm better... would it provide more flex?

    One concern I have with the long arms is dinging them in rocks when crawling.

    Same thing concerns me about the aev stock control repositioning as it comes down about 2 inches.
     
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    It's all about the arc of travel and the angle of the control arms.
    A control arm that is more perpendicular to the ground will ride smoother both on and off road as the forces from bumps in the road will transfer to the suspension as opposed to being transferred down the control arm and to the frame where the ride will seem harsher.
    With long arms when the suspension cycles the axle travels in a more gradual arc which causes less binding.
    With a shorter lift long arms are as necessary but it will help ride qualify and suspension travel.

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    IMO MC has a rep for max articulation by design. MC occasionally has free shipping but this past BF they had a discount plus free shipping. Maybe the deal will reappear over the holidays.
     
  8. Dec 4, 2017 at 8:35 AM
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    You can get equal travel out of long arm and short arm, it is that the long arm will hold good angles longer in the drop. It is tit for tat. Get hung up in rocks or have poor geometry. Your limiting factor in articulation is springs and shocks. Look at BDS. Life time warranty on all parts. Not to rub feelings, but In the wheeling world, rough country has a bad wrap. The only 3 I would consider are BDS, MC, and Teraflex. The only one I run is Teraflex. My $0.02.
     
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  9. Dec 4, 2017 at 9:03 AM
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    First- lift height, you're kinda all over the place here from 3" to 4.5", and from crappy lifts to good ones. IMO pick a tire size then nail down the appropriate lift height and don't cheap out in this area (i.e. RC) Sorry to be so blunt :)

    Second- If all you want is max articulation then go with the MC lift.

    Third- Your limiting factor is most always shock length. MCs 6 pack shocks are 15", but much less with their other shock options. (rocksport are 11.4" front and 11" rear)

    Fourth- I don't get, or agree, with max articulation as the deciding factor for your lift. But it's your Jeep and your call :) I've helped too many friends pull off lifts that were too high and unstable, I'd rather have a lower center of gravity and be more stable. Even if that cost me a little articulation. (which I have a little over 12" with the Falcon 3.3 shocks)

    So to sum it up, IMO make a decision on how you're going to use your Jeep and what size tire you'll run. Then build appropriately.

    FWIW here's mine with the Teraflex Sport S/T3 with a 1" spacer running Falcon 3.3 shocks (4-6" lift)


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    rough country is not good
     
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    3 inch zone lift. Fox 2.0 shocks. 35 inch nitto ridge grapplers. Bushwacker flat fenders. No name steel bumpers front and back for now.
    Yea I'd try to stay away from their lift components. I guess they make decent skid plates and shit but their lifts are junk. I actually considered buying a set of their inner fender liners but I don't like how they got a giant RC logo laser cut into them. Don't wanna get judged by the super hard core guys for buying their shit hahaha
     
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    Sorry what is bf?

    Argh..i can MC and no sales or free shipping anytime in the near future.

    Had my hopes up got that one lol.
     
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    I'll look into bds. Thanks.
     
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    MC ususally has free shipping sales around the holidays. You have to get on their mailing list to get the notices. often for no reason they have 4 hour flash sales with no shipping.
     
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    Agree on the RC lifts but if my initials were RC it might be cool to say babe that be my name and heck with the hardcore :). But as things keep changing in the market and more stuff (snapon) gets made overseas RC might be stepping up their game in the lucrative Jeep accessory game.
     
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    3 inch zone lift. Fox 2.0 shocks. 35 inch nitto ridge grapplers. Bushwacker flat fenders. No name steel bumpers front and back for now.
    Yea snap on being made over seas is a real kick in the ankle.
     
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    For some of the SO fanatics it's a kick a little higher up
     
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